Climate Change

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blowfly started the topic in Wednesday, 1 Jul 2020 at 9:40am

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seaslug Wednesday, 13 Dec 2023 at 1:07pm

Oh my....and it's winter

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Sprout Wednesday, 13 Dec 2023 at 1:19pm

Scientists uncover a surprising phenomenon in the Himalayas that might be slowing the effects of climate change.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/12/world/himalayan-glaciers-cooling-air-...

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seaslug Wednesday, 13 Dec 2023 at 3:47pm

Apologies, its a subscribed service but you will get the gist

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Pop Down Wednesday, 13 Dec 2023 at 6:20pm

I did get the gist seaslug

Nearly ALL major projects are dreadfully hard to KNOW ( or even predict with certainty
)what will happen over a 10 year period .

Especially Infrastructure , as they nearly always need time to "settle in " ( tweak ) .

Plans about important long term infrastructure , need to also be monitored ( what are others doing ) and changed , when the facts change ( derr Pop ) .

Whats Urgent today , might not be as urgent as tomorrow . ( pop )

Things are changing fast all around the world .

There are so many things we need to learn and looking o/s helps me imho .

Some things , I already hate , but we all need to keep looking ( not in the mainstream media imho ) .

Another simple idea , don't put too many eggs in ONE basket , especially with Energy . It's too important imho . ( derr Pop ) .

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Craig Monday, 18 Dec 2023 at 11:34am

The beat goes on..

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velocityjohnno Friday, 22 Dec 2023 at 11:07pm

Dr Ben Miles with more about a possible Ice Age Termination Event...

...except it seems to be occurring when we're already in an interglacial...

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Craig Monday, 8 Jan 2024 at 2:35pm

2023 broke records and forecasts by quite a margin in regards to global temperature, and the flow on effects are about to be felt across the US.

As the climate warms, the polar vortex isn't as strong, so polar air isn't held in close to the poles.

We get big wobbles and strong cold outbreaks, with the US set for a record breaker later this week/weekend. It's going to cause chaos and likely deaths.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 8 Jan 2024 at 4:05pm

Craig: been wanting to post this one for a while.

9:10 - what on earth is this phenomenon? Sparks coming out of mounted gun barrels (mounted on wall) for 3 days and 3 nights?! Is that taught in meteorology?

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velocityjohnno Monday, 8 Jan 2024 at 4:10pm

And happening now:

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Craig Monday, 8 Jan 2024 at 4:12pm

Haha nope.

Maybe grounding of the guns on the wall and charge going between an object and them. Or old mate had some good mushies.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 8 Jan 2024 at 4:41pm

US forecast, major winter storms half the country:

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Craig Wednesday, 10 Jan 2024 at 10:22am

Great visual of 2023, the hottest year on record in recent history. Note the growing blip towards that +1°C.

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Sprout Wednesday, 10 Jan 2024 at 10:42am

Crazy stuff Craig, how's this one.

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Craig Wednesday, 10 Jan 2024 at 12:09pm

Yep, the amount of crazy graphs and stats out there. The ocean is taking up a lot of the heat excess.

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seaslug Wednesday, 10 Jan 2024 at 2:00pm

Great visual graph Craig and also very concerning

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seaslug Wednesday, 10 Jan 2024 at 2:00pm

and Sprout's

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Craig Thursday, 11 Jan 2024 at 4:05pm

More data..

And the severe cold about to hit the US, with Europe also copping it.

Extreme variability.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 12 Jan 2024 at 11:53pm

So maybe Guy McPherson at Nature Bats Last was right after all. Enjoy the time we have.

Re: Dew points, wasn't that what Fortescue was going on about, with people actually boiling?

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velocityjohnno Friday, 2 Feb 2024 at 11:46pm

Dr Ella Gilbert of the British Antarctic Survey does her 2023 climate extremes wrap up:

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gromfull Saturday, 3 Feb 2024 at 11:42am

nothing to see here

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gromfull Saturday, 3 Feb 2024 at 11:47am
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Yep, the amount of crazy graphs and stats out there. The ocean is taking up a lot of the heat excess.

Or are the recent volcanic activity below the oceans heating them up from within.

TheTongan volcano was the biggest eruption in over 100 years, and the amount of water it sent into the atmosphere would have had a major impact on weather, was it 260000 tons of water it sent up, what goes up must come down, and it was salt water, not normally in the atmosphere, hmm

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Craig Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 10:39am

Thanks VJ. And yeah Gromfull, there's that influence as well.

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Pop Down Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 2:17pm

Enjoyed Ella for about half her video .

When she talked about Extreme Events caused by man made climate change being Bush Fires , I turned off , and stayed , but remained off . Floods , flooding and climate change ?

Polar Melt is another thing , as Sea Level going up 1% makes more difference than 1% temperature change , in ONE year imo .

Even with the World ALL agreeing to Zero 2050 , the Ice Melting won't stop for a while .

The Dutch built the Worlds best Dyke System in ONE year ( 1953 ) and protected their valuable Country .

Mitigation of Fires has NEVER been easy , the Dutch mitigated Sea Rise and grew their economy by 8.5% in 1953 .

The Dykes are ALL still working perfectly .

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Island Bay Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 2:23pm

Adaptation is sadly a dirty word these day, Pop.

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Pop Down Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 3:06pm

Hey Island Bay ( cool name :)

Adaptation is Change , and it is never easy .

Some people , like the Dutch , have adaption forced upon them ( 2000 people died ( 50% drowned in the first 24 hours ) , react like hero's and very quickly .

You seem like an early adapter but everything adapts , eventually .

Otherwise , it dies .

The way of the world .

Melbourne can build a big Dyke / Hydro / Panama Canal Super System , at the Heads of our Bay and will be OK ( a lot of Dutch people down here ) . Sydney 2 .

The Dutch Sea Water Management System is 1 of the Modern Wonders of the World .

Australia has the ability to build something similar imho !

Australia's Fire and Flood Management Systems , also need a BIG investment and can improve substantially , as a result .

We have a lot of work 2 do imo .

That RED line on the graph looked very scary .

I would ask that all the data is Triple checked ( by someone NEW ) , as THAT shouldn't happen ( unless something HUGE has happened ) .

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Supafreak Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 3:34pm

@IB , please correct me if I’m wrong, you are Dutch, is that right ? Living in NZ . Just thought pop might not realise .

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udo Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 4:27pm

How to Offend a Dane....call him Dutch
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Supafreak Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 4:35pm
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How to Offend a Dane....call him Dutch
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Sorry if I’ve offended anyone, I’m not very diplomatic at the best of times . https://scandification.com/danish-vs-dutch-differences-between-dutch-and...

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seaslug Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 4:37pm

Better than calling him a Swede ahahah

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Pop Down Monday, 5 Feb 2024 at 9:57pm

Mum came out on a boat with her family from the Netherlands .

Two brothers ( Dutch men are different 2 the women :) and a sister , all alive and kicking (. mum is the eldest ) .

Sailed past South Africa and came out with quite a few others in the 50's to escape War torn Europe .

So , my mum is a refugee !

Dads parents were Poms .

3 brothers just moved to Australia ( maybe got into trouble haha ) .

Economic refugees .

The Dutch have saved the World heaps of times in the really old days .

They still can come up with a good idea .

Just saying .

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Island Bay Tuesday, 6 Feb 2024 at 9:05am
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Better than calling him a Swede ahahah

Danish yes. Not nearly as stubborn as the Dutch, and more relaxed than the Swedes, hehe

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Pop Down Tuesday, 6 Feb 2024 at 9:28am

Hey IB

NZ is a place I need to visit .

Our countries are like sisters , with a bond forged by ANZAC spirit .

Most Northern Europeans are pretty relaxed imho ( not Sure about East of Germany ) .

I worked for the Swiss and they are ok but the sense of humour of a pen .

Southern European are more crazy ( probably from eating so late ) , especially at night time , for some reason .

Melbourne has every country's peoples and we ALL get along very nicely .

We ALL have an AFL team to support !

Only game in the world where half the spectators are female , so we are all going to the footy together .

No trouble at our games and spectators of both teams mingle .

Guessing our city is a Model for people getting on with making something of our lives .

Our Schools and Uni's are great and kids can be whatever they want .

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Island Bay Tuesday, 6 Feb 2024 at 9:34am

I'm with you, Pop.

Unity is to be celebrated and cultivated.

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Craig Tuesday, 13 Feb 2024 at 3:46pm

Not so much climate change related, just people with too much money building in stupid spots.

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flollo Tuesday, 13 Feb 2024 at 3:49pm

Jeez, that's cheap considering some other prestige locations around San Diego.

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stunet Tuesday, 13 Feb 2024 at 4:31pm
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Jeez, that's cheap considering some other prestige locations around San Diego.

Cheap and soon to be worthless.

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flollo Tuesday, 13 Feb 2024 at 5:44pm

You never know. It's the US, they will find a way to protect the property but they can't find a way to protect the rail line between San Diego and LA. This one constantly closes due to landslides. It was an issue when I was there a couple of weeks ago and keeps having the same issues every single year.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/transportation/story/2024-01-2...

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flollo Tuesday, 13 Feb 2024 at 5:54pm

Check out this place in la Jolla for $26.8m USD. Right on the water but someone will buy it. There’s so much money over there.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/308-Vista-De-La-Playa_...

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 13 Feb 2024 at 6:04pm

A hot day and half of victoria is without electricity because our only decent power station is half down : (

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 13 Feb 2024 at 6:15pm

;)

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 3:39pm

flollo

Really , another thing 2 worry about !

AMOC Collapsing into Meridional temperature gradients causing ice-albedo feedback loops that change in both hemisphere ffs .

Temperatures going up 1 degree and down 5 in 1 day , near the Amazon Rainforest ???

What next ?

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velocityjohnno Monday, 19 Feb 2024 at 11:32am

I think the biggest shock was the Antarctic sea ice extent in this last year, prior to that it had been holding up in the face of what was happening elsewhere. Wonder what this year will bring.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 19 Feb 2024 at 11:35am
indo-dreaming wrote:

A hot day and half of victoria is without electricity because our only decent power station is half down : (

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/half-a-million-victorian-hom...

It was a windy day! Young one was on scissor lift but luckily in an alcove, got sent home when it got above 35.

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basesix Monday, 19 Feb 2024 at 2:14pm
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;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9j0ITpXaND4

beautiful seeing an optimistic, young technical mind do what he can, despite horrific circumstances ^. I'm sure it's been recommended before, but The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind is a very good, uplifting true-story set in Malawi

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Richard Cheese Monday, 19 Feb 2024 at 6:07pm